tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post2919923487463030285..comments2023-10-30T05:28:11.795-04:00Comments on All Education Matters: [UPDATE] Dean James Thelen from Thomas M. Cooley Law School Responds With A Threatening LetterCryn Johannsenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08452412213997621242noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-50972021832503348512011-05-03T09:26:08.090-04:002011-05-03T09:26:08.090-04:00http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/381/988...http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/381/988/2009-381988915-0661fd69-9.pdf<br /><br />Here is the Thomas M. Cooley Law School’s 2009 Form 990. On page 37, we can see that “dean and president” Don LeDuc made $548,067 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for 2008. That signifies a 3.4% increase in his compensation. While this may not seem like much, it is an extra $18,014 from the year before.<br /><br />Even a lawyer cannot argue with the math. By the way, Thomas M. Cooley is widely considered to be one of the biggest laughingstocks of American “legal education.” While many graduates note the harsh grading curve, most recognize that this is a low-end school. And that is being kind.<br /><br />http://thomas-cooley-law-school-scam.weebly.com/1/post/2011/02/the-thomas-m-cooley-law-school-scam3.html<br /><br />Check out this critique, from an alleged former Cooley student. <br /><br />Again, you have my permission to cram these figures and statements up your rectum, on the condition that you do so in their entirety. Have a bad day.<br /><br />http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings/page+3<br /><br />Lastly, US News & World Report lists the average law student indebtedness - for those Cooley members of the Class of 2010 who incurred law school debt - as $105,798. Fully NINETY PERCENT of this unfortunate class took on such debt. So much for your claims of providing affordable, private “legal education.” To wit:<br /><br />“We at Thomas M. Cooley Law School are proud of our mission to provide one of the most affordable and accessible private legal educations in the country.”<br /><br />http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+8<br /><br />This is for a fourth tier dump, or as US News now refers to it: “rank not published.” The school charges $30,644 per year in full-time tuition. Now, THAT is disgusting and reprehensible. Maybe you can muster up some anger and indignation over that, James.Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-39326913212911231502011-05-02T03:00:43.518-04:002011-05-02T03:00:43.518-04:00http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/381/988...http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2009/381/988/2009-381988915-0661fd69-9.pdf<br /><br />Here is the commode’s 2009 Form 990. On page 37, we can see that “dean and president” Don LeDuc made $548,067 in TOTAL COMPENSATION - for 2008. That signifies a 3.4% increase in his compensation. While this may not seem like much, it is an extra $18,014 from the year before.<br /><br />Even a lawyer cannot argue with the math. By the way, Thomas M. Cooley is widely considered to be one of the biggest laughingstocks of American “legal education.” While many graduates note the harsh grading curve, most recognize that this is a low-end school. And that is being kind.<br /><br />http://thomas-cooley-law-school-scam.weebly.com/1/post/2011/02/the-thomas-m-cooley-law-school-scam3.html<br /><br />Check out this critique, from an alleged former Cooley student. <br /><br />Again, you have my permission to cram these figures and statements up your rectum, on the condition that you do so in their entirety. Have a bad day.<br /><br />http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/grad-debt-rankings/page+3<br /><br />Lastly, US News & World Report lists the average law student indebtedness - for those Cooley members of the Class of 2010 who incurred law school debt - as $105,798. Fully NINETY PERCENT of this unfortunate class took on such debt. So much for your claims of providing affordable, private “legal education.” To wit:<br /><br />“We at Thomas M. Cooley Law School are proud of our mission to provide one of the most affordable and accessible private legal educations in the country.”<br /><br />http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings/page+8<br /><br />This is for a fourth tier trash can, or as US News now refers to it: “rank not published.” The school charges $30,644 per year in full-time tuition. Now, THAT is disgusting and reprehensible. Maybe you can muster up some anger and indignation over that, James.Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-7953111883036079632011-05-02T02:44:10.308-04:002011-05-02T02:44:10.308-04:00Hi James Thelen.
It is a known fact that TTTThoma...Hi James Thelen.<br /><br />It is a known fact that TTTThoma$ M. Cooley Law $chool is non-profit. (Let's be real, with each other, and recognize that "non-profit" is a legal designation. This distinction is largely for tax purposes.)<br /><br />http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2008/381/988/2008-381988915-052e1fe8-9.pdf<br /><br />Check out pages 10 and 21 of Thomas M. Cooley’s 2008 IRS Form 990. On page ten, you can see that the following “law professors” and their TOTAL COMPENSATION – for 2007: Philip Prygoski, $225,821; John Scott, $234,143; Marjorie Russell, $227,559; and Kathleen Butler, $226,456. Plus, associate dean John Nussbaumer made $232,942 in 2007.<br /><br />On page 21 of this report, you can see that “president and dean” of this lowly law school, Don P. LeDuc, made $530,053 in TOTAL COMPENSATION for 2007. Yes, as the “president and dean” of this private “non-profit” school, LeDuc made FIVE HUNDRED THIRTY THOUSAND AND FIFTY-THREE DOLLARS in a single year!! Apparently, “higher education” does pay off – for some. The “VP of Operations” made $203,973, and the CFO and Treasurer made $188,836 for the same year.<br /><br />(James, you have my permission to cram these figures up your ass, but only on the condition that they are crammed up your cornhole, in their entirety.)Nandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06423524039657355134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-91798383915257987512011-04-29T01:45:28.346-04:002011-04-29T01:45:28.346-04:00Oh yeah, this pile of garbage "law school&quo...Oh yeah, this pile of garbage "law school" is certainly a "non-profit", but the disgraceful dean is certainly making a nice sum of a "profit" every year. Isn't that right you garbage attorney scum "James"?<br /><br />Cryn, I'm a licensed attorney and I would be happy to defend any "lawsuit" against you pro bono.<br /><br />The audacity of these law school scumbags.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-71144934335980657602011-04-29T00:22:07.556-04:002011-04-29T00:22:07.556-04:00It should be noted that many self-proclaimed de ju...It should be noted that many self-proclaimed de jure "non-profit" institutions are in actuality de facto "for profit" institutions where the shareholders are the organization's directors, administrators, and faculty. Just because an organization is formally "non-profit" for tax purposes does not mean that its stakeholders do not profit from the success of the organization, in which case they might not care about the people they are supposed serve and might have an incentive to take advantage of people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-2903770851971423272011-04-28T17:12:03.043-04:002011-04-28T17:12:03.043-04:00Thanks, Tiger.Thanks, Tiger.Cryn Johannsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08452412213997621242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-59366297341442316162011-04-28T17:11:07.335-04:002011-04-28T17:11:07.335-04:00Cryn, I support you.
TigerCryn, I support you.<br /><br />TigerBig Sur Blogispherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13080435178381510742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-45262988298941010852011-04-28T16:56:25.557-04:002011-04-28T16:56:25.557-04:00James, the fact that it could even exist as a hoax...James, the fact that it could even exist as a hoax should make people wonder what Cooley did to attract such a thing.<br /><br />You have my permission, James, to post this statement.<br /><br />Really, you may...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-84757812894479806032011-04-28T15:43:51.876-04:002011-04-28T15:43:51.876-04:00The 'tipster' didn't state that the sc...The 'tipster' didn't state that the school wasn't non-profit. If you go back and read the comment carefully, you'll see that. We know it's a non-profit. That's not the point.Cryn Johannsenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08452412213997621242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-69081222795953176612011-04-28T15:42:09.021-04:002011-04-28T15:42:09.021-04:00Anonymous-- I disagree. I would be angry if someon...Anonymous-- I disagree. I would be angry if someone were making something up about me. It took me 10 seconds to discover that the school is non-profit. <br /><br />Unless you can back this up with more than one source, you should go along with the most knowledgeable source you've got-- the spokeslawyer from the school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-85817795967476308842011-04-28T14:47:39.342-04:002011-04-28T14:47:39.342-04:00Which leads me to a question that has been nagging...Which leads me to a question that has been nagging me for a while:<br /><br />If I were to lose in a defamation suit, or any kind of civil suit, and was found liable for damages.......<br /><br />........given my student loan debt, am I "Judgement proof" or "Collection Proof?"<br /><br />Like, if I won the lottery in an hour, who would be first in line for the money? The Student Lenders, or the winner of the lawsuit?<br /><br />And, one last question, and kind of esoteric: Are the student loans inadvertently and as a sort of corollary creating a large block of people that are "Collection Proof?"<br /><br />If so, doesn't that harm the rest of society by extension?<br /><br />Not to beat this to death, but for instance:<br /><br />Joe drives drunk and Kills someone, and is successfully sued by the plaintiff's family.<br /><br />They can't collect however, because the tortfeasor is deeply in debt to the Student Lenders (First in line)<br /><br />Also, the t-feasor couldn't get a job to make any decent money in or out of law. So he's broke anyway!<br /><br />And what's with Paul Newman? <br /><br />How ya doin anyway Cryn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3481083477379506990.post-4674600040766227112011-04-28T14:20:35.040-04:002011-04-28T14:20:35.040-04:00The threatening Cooley letter should confirm the t...The threatening Cooley letter should confirm the truth of your initial post. People only make threats when they're scared; and when they threaten you for exercising your first amendment constitutional rights it means they're really really scared.<br /><br />Great job!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com